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Bagram Prison Exposed

Posted by robertgreenwald on November 24th, 2009

Two brothers and former prisoners at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan give their testimony about the harsh abuse they witnessed while being captured. Their tale is an example of just how difficult and complex the situation in Afghanistan is.

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  1. afghan says:

    this is one of the examples there are thousands of afghans that they are lost by american troops, and thousands of afghan civilian people died by the bombing of us troops, so simply the us troops are not fighting against fucking talibans they are fighting against civilians if they really want to fight against taliban so its better to send troops in pakistan…. i dont know where the hell taliban is hided in afghanistan dat america could not even find them.. the Isaf clear afghanistan in only 7 days, so how it is posible dat taliban is hided in afghanistan..

  2. kathiechandler says:

    Thank you for you time and truth. I agree but I also believe we still have a chance to change things but our time as a human race is running out and tomorrow is not a option today we as a people must change. Mark 11:24 ACT AS IF YE HAVE RECIEVED AND YE SHALL RECIEVE TEN FOLD”I shall walk with love, compassion,truth and lack of judgement. ALL mankind must return to ONENESS. Keep spreading the message. Remember Jesus (or whoever anyone believes in spiritually) didnt have cell phone or computers they had to walk the walk, speak of love with every breath. I am blessed that what I do daily for my bread keeps me in that space. I struggle with the horror with the videos for I know there are those who dont have their hearts torn out by seeing a child dying or suffering, as mine is.
    NOt that I chose to judge them, I just truly don't understand . God bless you my friend keep your passion strong love light Kathie

  3. williamcrary says:

    Yes, I will add my comment. GET OUT OF AFGANISTAN NOW! We (the Americans) don't want to be there, we can't afford to be there and they don't want us there!

    We need to work on our Infrastructure at home, Our health care system, end our dependence from patrolium products, providing healther food and cleaning up our corrupt government by getting rid of our corrupt polititions

    I think its time for the American people to stand up an make these things happan. Yes, a revolt if nessary.

  4. Acecool says:

    It's good to know I am not alone. If we only search our hearts and remember how we value our own family and friends, with love, dignity, honor and respect, it shouldn't be hard to show the “SAME” value to those in foreign lands.

    I remember when I was only 4 yrs old, I went to Disneyland and remember “It's A Small World” most vividly. I also remember my thoughts as well, which were, how interesting and happy I was to see all the different cultures and all the audio-animatronic figures from different countries with happy songs and smiles on their faces. Now to see those very same cultures being destroyed and how America can just stand by and accept the “HORROR” inflicted upon innocent men, women and children thinking we are wiping out “Terrorism” is complete insanity!

    Former U.S. State Representative Charley Wilson had the best concept, and it worked! Supply the villages with weapons and train them to defend themselves against the Taliban. Then we'd be hero's instead of being called “terrorists” ourselves. He was only one man, without much power, but his passion for the Afghanistan people was great! WHERE IS HE NOW! and why haven't others stood up in congress to stop this bloodshed?

  5. Acecool says:

    It's good to know I am not alone. If we only search our hearts and remember how we value our own family and friends, with love, dignity, honor and respect, it shouldn't be hard to show the “SAME” value to those in foreign lands.

    I remember when I was only 4 yrs old, I went to Disneyland and remember “It's A Small World” most vividly. I also remember my thoughts as well, which were, how interesting and happy I was to see all the different cultures and all the audio-animatronic figures from different countries with happy songs and smiles on their faces. Now to see those very same cultures being destroyed and how America can just stand by and accept the “HORROR” inflicted upon innocent men, women and children thinking we are wiping out “Terrorism” is complete insanity!

    Former U.S. State Representative Charley Wilson had the best concept, and it worked! Supply the villages with weapons and train them to defend themselves against the Taliban. Then we'd be hero's instead of being called “terrorists” ourselves. He was only one man, without much power, but his passion for the Afghanistan people was great! WHERE IS HE NOW! and why haven't others stood up in congress to stop this bloodshed?

    No man or woman should “EVER” be imprisoned without “EVIDENCE” that they have committed a crime! Or worse! To torture or belittle another human being for any reason! For those responsible, know that justice will be done, for they know not that GOD will judge them for their heinous acts.

    “The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.” Mathew 25:40

    That works both ways! What you do to others good or bad, you have done to yourself! As an American, I can say that the majority of our U.S. citizens are against this unfair treatment of detaining people, but our Government is corrupt, and “WE THE PEOPLE” no longer have a voice.

    Diplomatic America for what it once was, has left the building!

    “Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas any more”

  6. kathiechandler says:

    we can do this we are being given an opportunity to bring this world to peace. We as Americans are not alone ,even our brothers and sisters in Iran want peace and the Freedom we take for granted. As they fought for their freedom we turned our backs. I pray for all of us humans regain control of our world. love and light Kathie

  7. Acecool says:

    Kathy, You are a saint! Your words are comforting to know we are not alone.
    God Bless you and yours in all that you ask.

    Robert

  8. Alyse says:

    Obama is going to address the nation this week and explain the plan following the huge surge of 30,000-40,000 additional troops to Afghanistan. He’s said he has no doubt that after the plan is explained to the American people, we will support it. If this is an exit strategy, I surely don’t see how one last big, useless surge of troops to fight a misguided, dragged out, immoral, wasteful war founded on a lie and strung along by weak leads and provocations can possibly be ended with any type of dignity or sense of accomplishment. Nor can I see how the sending of these troops can be justified at all if they are going to reek anymore destruction and killing on any part of Afghanistan.

  9. afghan1 says:

    ace cool is right charley wilson had a great concept….
    we dont have any afghan soldier why???? becouse no one is paying them look at an american soldier, a US soldier have 1 million dollar expance per year and an afghan soldier have only 100 or maximam 200 $ per month so wat should they do by 200 $ he cant put his life in danger for only 200$ but instead of sending 34000 us soldier just increase the afghan soldier salary then see there would be thousands or i can say they would be lakhs of afghan ready for getting soldier and as we know afghan soldeir dont need training wat they want is money to cover their family, by doing this job every unemploy boys are getting in army, and they can defend their country.

  10. kennychen says:

    Donald Trump should be the GM, any current corrupt government official should be FIRE. sending more troop does not solve hunger, one million dollars per soldier, wow, i am sure one million dollars can get a lot of people on your side, just feed them, they will love you

  11. iriedawta says:

    @ acecool, what makes you think america will treat others in other countries any better than they treat ppl in america? How many ppl are in prison in “this great u.s. of a. without EVIDENCE, you must be joking to say it should never happen. Ppl right here in u.s. get tortured, beaten, abused, made to confess to crimes they didnt do, just to have the beatings STOP. HOW DARE YOU WANT TO DEFEND OTHERS WHEN YOUR OWN BACK YARD IS MESSED UP. I agree the ppl should not have to endure this type of treatment but if the same type of individuals are being sent to Afghanistan, how do you think it will stop? The power hungry will always be that way, the innocent will always suffer on this earth. WAGES OF SIN??!!! DUH??? It hurts my heart to see how this county treats it's own ppl, do you really believe they will treat others any different?? WHAT A JOKE!!!!

  12. Leslie Levy says:

    Now that 35,000 more troops will be deployed at a cost of $35,000,000,000 per year ,,, with no definite mission stated other than to reduce the Taliban assets and protect the American people (yea right!) ,,, with no Way to fiscally pay for it in a time of economic depression ,,, with scant political will of the American taxpayer ,,, what exactly are we trying to accomplish, much less fighting for? What are the benchmarks of progress if not victory?

    Perhaps we could negotiate the rights of Afghan women to enjoy habeus corpus, much less education, sexual, marital and reproductive freedom, access to the workplace and to a poise of economic status and self-determinism, etc. Can we negotiate the terms of an enlightened society if these men are truly willing to talk peace?

    What if thirty-five thousand million dollars were spent on aid and education and infrastructure and agriculture and hospitals … etc. Then would we have the right to occupy a foreign country and impose our cultural directives? What ultimate good can come from war if we cannot negotiate the terms of an enlightened and lasting peace?

    When we're damned if we do and damned if we don't,,, perhaps it's best to err on the side of non-doing … Except that it's too late now to be blameless and to simply walk away …

    What is the best for the most in a social abyss that has become a military quagmire? — an oil pipeline?

    Should I say — not in my name! — or Heaven help US ALL!

    I wish I knew the answers,
    Leslie Levy
    Alhambra,Ca.

  13. American Zombie says:

    If you're waiting for GOD,you're going to die waiting.EVOLUTION RULES!!!!

  14. American Zombie says:

    money,money, money,and power,power,power,there's nothing left to be said!!

  15. Acecool says:

    Seems your getting overly irrational on the subject. I am very aware of what
    goes on in my own backyard. But then again, this subject matter is on the
    video presented, not a video of what goes on in America. However, It should
    be obvious that I do not like any form of corruption for “ANYONE”. Those
    people suffering in Afghanistan are no less human than the people here in
    the U.S. – When I hear and see the mistreatment, maiming, death and
    destruction caused by our “OWN” U.S. Government upon any innocent man, woman
    or child, regardless of what country, It is without question, and act of
    Evil and an abomination toward mankind. We Are All Human Beings created by
    God, and should be treated as such. But to play GOD, in recklessly deciding
    judgment without due process (facts/proof/evidence) over another and then
    administering torturous punishment, is a crime in itself. Surely those
    responsible for any act of cruelty and those who refuse to accept the will
    of God in showing fair treatment of another, will one day enter the gates of
    Hell for eternity (ignorance is bliss for them). For those who think Hell is
    anything less than your worst nightmares, you have itching ears, hearing
    only what you want to hear. As in life, You know there is an opposite to
    everything, and as Glorious as Heaven is suppose to be for those who follow
    the truth, There is also a place for the evil minded. As the saying goes,
    “they have made their beds, now they must lie in it” – Eternity is Forever!
    Unrelenting Pain and Suffering far above anything you could ever imagine as
    a man. Why take a chance that it doesn't exist? Wouldn't Satan lead you to
    believe he doesn't exist? Or Hell for that matter? People can continue to
    believe in lies, but Love knows only the truth. Don't waste your lives
    bickering, biting, arguing, fighting as it is nothing but mans foolishness
    and nothing ever good comes from it. As Money and the “Temporary” power that
    comes from it will not last, but the promises of God will. God is not
    responsible for what the evil that continues to exist in mankind, But He is
    the judge! and no one person is exempt. They will surely reap what they sow!

    All we can do now is to speak out and let those in charge know, We The
    People have a voice, and do not condone the mistreatment of any human being.
    The Geneva Convention must be upheld to the strictest measures, where those
    who are found guilty of breaking it, Must also be punished as any other
    criminal that breaks the law.

  16. Acecool says:

    Only in a Fools Paradise do your words ring true. Truth and Wisdom is knowing, “That Life is not about what you EARN! but the quality of what you LEARN!” and I don't mean a college education. As that may be good while on earth, but won't impress God one bit combined with an evil heart.

    Which one is true?
    “He who dies with the most toys, Wins!” Or?
    “He who dies with the most toys……………..Can't take it with him”
    Sure, it may get you a nice custom coffin high up on the hill, but your body will still decay and rot like the rest of us. Question is, are you a puppet without a soul or spirit, strung along by Satans will to have a self serving attitude, or will you come to your senses and know that the spirit inside you is suffering greatly? Don't feel the pain? It's what psychologists refer to as stuffing it, or denying your true self. God calls it a Reprobate Mind.

    No amount of POWER or RICHES can buy you an eternal life in Heaven, but it can buy you an Eternal Life In Hell. Why gamble your life over living the temporary life of a thief and a liar (stepping on others to get ahead) only to pay it all back in endless torment. If you do not know God, It is only because you lack any “common sense” when the evidence is all around you. Your mind is muddied and fouled by your incestuous need of having a false sense of security found in the value man has placed in temporary riches. Meaning, You have no God, therefore it is much easier to pretend the Goodness of God does not exist. Itching Ears, hearing only what you want to hear. Enjoy it while you can, because when your life on earth is over, that too will not exist. Jesus may have died in vain to those who refuse to acknowledge God, but to those of us who believe he brought the WORD of God (Gospel), have learned, that the true riches and power come from LOVE. As Love conquers all things, and within it, you will find the truth of who you were created to be, and not what the world and it's little trinkets of paper and colored stones have made you to be.

  17. sartak says:

    Our economy is going to hell faster then quick-silver but hey lets keep spending money we don't have driving that ever growing balloon we call a debt larger. Yeah the American way!!!!

    Maybe Jesse Venture is right and I should move to Mexico. Atleast they are honest about being dishonest.

    Just curious being that we owe the Rockefellas and other countries so much money who is really running things the big banker or our so called elected officials? Wonder what will happen if they ever say “Lets repo some shit for all the green they owe us”!!

  18. sartak says:

    Our economy is going to hell faster then quick-silver but hey lets keep spending money we don't have driving that ever growing balloon we call a debt larger. Yeah the American way!!!!

    Maybe Jesse Venture is right and I should move to Mexico. Atleast they are honest about being dishonest.

    Just curious being that we owe the Rockefellas and other countries so much money who is really running things the big banker or our so called elected officials? Wonder what will happen if they ever say “Lets repo some shit for all the green they owe us”!!

  19. [...] late 2009, Brave New Foundation interviewed two former prisoners of the main Bagram Air Base facility, brothers Noor and Abdul Raqeeb, who also described abusive treatment. The habeus corpus petition [...]

  20. [...] late 2009, Brave New Foundation interviewed two former prisoners of the main Bagram Air Base facility, brothers Noor and Abdul Raqeeb, who also described abusive treatment. The habeus corpus petition [...]

  21. [...] late 2009, Brave New Foundation interviewed two former prisoners of the main Bagram Air Base facility, brothers Noor and Abdul Raqeeb, who also described abusive treatment. The habeus corpus petition [...]

  22. Hawaiianstyle says:

    You can't change the hearts and minds of people with a gun or bomb, not even a remote controlled bomb.

    All you can do is increase the hatred. Humanitarian aid will change minds. Watch Haiti.

  23. Boondock_Saint says:

    I guess these two guys want everything to stay the same. We need to withdraw ALL of our troops and let the locals deal with it.

  24. Hawaiianstyle says:

    Why end the war? It has been an economic boom for some in country locals. It has been an economic boom for the war industry at home. Sure some people have died, but the war industry eats omelets, and to make an omelet you have to …

    Its too bad that the king no longer leads the troops into battle. In fact we have not only “evolved” out of that practice we have eliminated the draft where the kids of rich parents had to get shot too. We have “evolved” into an “all volunteer army” where if you are poor and like to eat and maybe want an education the military was a good opportunity.

    Unfortunately we succumbed to the natural consequences of our leaders' “War on…” philosophy. You remember war on poverty, drugs, etc. With the “War on…” exemplifying a politicians most serious efforts at solving a problem its no wonder diplomacy went from need to war without talk or considering other options, especially when you have an all volunteer military.

    Of course “All Voluntary” means that economic conditions, high education costs, low wages, the decline of the real wage and other factors are not considered when making a voluntary decision.

    Want to stop war. Re-institute the draft. Rich folks don't like body bags. Of course neither do poor folks, but there are more kinds of collateral damage than killing the other guys civilians.

  25. [...] late 2009, Brave New Foundation interviewed two former prisoners of the main Bagram Air Base facility, brothers Noor and Abdul Raqeeb, who also described abusive treatment. The habeus corpus petition [...]

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