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	<title>Comments on: Afghanistan War: The Soviet Lesson Not Learned</title>
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	<description>Rethinking our policy toward Afghanistan requires vigorous public debate and Congressional oversight. Every major war or military action since World War II has come under the microscope of Congressional oversight hearings</description>
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		<title>By: Savemyhopes</title>
		<link>http://rethinkafghanistan.com/blog/2009/12/afghanistan-war-the-soviet-lesson-not-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-2812</link>
		<dc:creator>Savemyhopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both pakistan and afghanistan are suffering from last 30years because of this russian an american invasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both pakistan and afghanistan are suffering from last 30years because of this russian an american invasion.</p>
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		<title>By: abdullahiedward</title>
		<link>http://rethinkafghanistan.com/blog/2009/12/afghanistan-war-the-soviet-lesson-not-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-1408</link>
		<dc:creator>abdullahiedward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 05:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following is taken from the Pentagon papers and is an excerpt from Memorandum “South Vietnam” from Secretary of Defense McNamara to President Johnson, March 16, 1964:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;III. B.	The U.S. policy of reducing existing personnel where Afghanistanies (South Vietnamese) are in a position to assume the functions is still sound. Its application will not lead to any major reductions in the near future, but adherence to this policy as such has a sound effect in portraying to the U.S. and the world that we continue to regard the war as a conflict the South Vietnamese must win and take ultimate responsibility for.  Substantial reductions in the numbers of U.S. military personnel should be possible before the end on 2011 (1965). However, the U.S. should continue to reiterate that it would provide all the asisstasnce and advice required to do the job regardless of how long it will take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is taken from the Pentagon papers and is an excerpt from Memorandum “South Vietnam” from Secretary of Defense McNamara to President Johnson, March 16, 1964:</p>
<p>III. B.	The U.S. policy of reducing existing personnel where Afghanistanies (South Vietnamese) are in a position to assume the functions is still sound. Its application will not lead to any major reductions in the near future, but adherence to this policy as such has a sound effect in portraying to the U.S. and the world that we continue to regard the war as a conflict the South Vietnamese must win and take ultimate responsibility for.  Substantial reductions in the numbers of U.S. military personnel should be possible before the end on 2011 (1965). However, the U.S. should continue to reiterate that it would provide all the asisstasnce and advice required to do the job regardless of how long it will take.</p>
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		<title>By: Afghanistan War: The Soviet Lesson Not Learned - Fox News Watchdog</title>
		<link>http://rethinkafghanistan.com/blog/2009/12/afghanistan-war-the-soviet-lesson-not-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator>Afghanistan War: The Soviet Lesson Not Learned - Fox News Watchdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Soviet invasion of the very same nation. In response, Robert Greenwald has posted the latest Rethink Afghanistan video, &#8220;Afghanistan War: The Soviet Lesson Not Learned.&#8221; As with all the Rethink [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Soviet invasion of the very same nation. In response, Robert Greenwald has posted the latest Rethink Afghanistan video, &#8220;Afghanistan War: The Soviet Lesson Not Learned.&#8221; As with all the Rethink [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did not the invasion of Afghanistan accelerate the financial ruin of the Soviet Union? I see that happening to the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did not the invasion of Afghanistan accelerate the financial ruin of the Soviet Union? I see that happening to the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Gallenius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gallenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be argued, and in fact has been argued, that the Soviet Union&#039;s occupation of Afghanistan was a decisive factor that led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the end of it&#039;s global military influence,  and our &quot;victory&quot; in the Cold War.  These were indeed the objectives that led many in the U.S. leadership at the time, including Zbigniew Brzezhinsky,  to covertly supply the Mujahiddeen with weapons, supplies and training in their war against the Soviets.  Now, it is the United States that occupies Afghanistan in yet another unwinnable Afghan war, and, I submit, that war will be a decisive factor  if not in our own dissolution, though that is a distinct possibility, then certainly in the end of our global military dominance, and the end of our empire.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The dangers inherent in our current policy in Afghanistan are there for all to see, and yet the Bush administration, and now the Obama administration, seem bent on this same self-destructive course.  Why?  Is it because we are determined to remain the world&#039;s sole &quot;superpower&quot; by dominating the region and the Caspian Sea oil pipeline routes through Afghanistan and Pakistan?  Is it because we want to deny Russia and China access to these same routes, and their resulting dominance in the region?  Is it because we wish to help Israel secure a lebensraum in the region where she will be unchallengeable, free to extend her borders to conform to those of the largest extent of ancient Israel, encompassing half of Iraq, nearly all of Lebanon, Jordan and the eastern bank of the Nile? Or is it to protect the current major source of heroin for the global illegal drug trade, in which the U.S. and several other major Western governments are covertly involved, and have been for decades?  Though I think all of these objectives, and more, have played a role in keeping us on the road to disaster in Afghanistan, there is something else at work here. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In order to see what that is, it is necessary to take a global view of current events.  First of all, over nearly the last forty years, the Western governments have been engaged in progressively abolishing the political, social and economic liberty and prosperity of their people.  &quot;Free trade&quot; agreements, the outsourcing of industry, unfettered immigration, decreasing reliance on gold in international finance and capitalization, the burgeoning importance of thin-air finance capitalism, increasing international control, decreasing national sovereignty, and many other factors have combined to make the lives of Western populations increasingly insecure and precarious.  Since the attacks of 9-11, these trends have intensified exponentially, combined with a worldwide push for more government surveillance and control of populations, increasing governmental use of fear and intimidation against the people, intensifying police power and brutality, the practical disappearance of human rights standards and constitutional restraint, and many other factors.  If one adds to this witches brew the still very real danger of an American and worldwide economic collapse and a confrontation between Russia, China and the United States over the fate of Iran, the clear picture emerges of a world about to either self-destruct or change to a world totalitarian state with absolute power, or possibly a Third World War followed by a  world tyranny.  Indeed, the mutual destruction of the three powerful incipient superpowers could be conceived of as a CONDITION for such a world dictatorship!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When seen in this light, the self-destruction of the United States in Afghanistan, or at the very least its self-induced strategic vulnerability to attack from Russia and China resulting from its&#039; military overstretch and exhaustion, makes perfect sense.  The complete formation of a world tyranny is probably impossible without the destruction of the United States as a world power, and probably of Russia and China as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be argued, and in fact has been argued, that the Soviet Union&#39;s occupation of Afghanistan was a decisive factor that led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the end of it&#39;s global military influence,  and our &#8220;victory&#8221; in the Cold War.  These were indeed the objectives that led many in the U.S. leadership at the time, including Zbigniew Brzezhinsky,  to covertly supply the Mujahiddeen with weapons, supplies and training in their war against the Soviets.  Now, it is the United States that occupies Afghanistan in yet another unwinnable Afghan war, and, I submit, that war will be a decisive factor  if not in our own dissolution, though that is a distinct possibility, then certainly in the end of our global military dominance, and the end of our empire.</p>
<p>The dangers inherent in our current policy in Afghanistan are there for all to see, and yet the Bush administration, and now the Obama administration, seem bent on this same self-destructive course.  Why?  Is it because we are determined to remain the world&#39;s sole &#8220;superpower&#8221; by dominating the region and the Caspian Sea oil pipeline routes through Afghanistan and Pakistan?  Is it because we want to deny Russia and China access to these same routes, and their resulting dominance in the region?  Is it because we wish to help Israel secure a lebensraum in the region where she will be unchallengeable, free to extend her borders to conform to those of the largest extent of ancient Israel, encompassing half of Iraq, nearly all of Lebanon, Jordan and the eastern bank of the Nile? Or is it to protect the current major source of heroin for the global illegal drug trade, in which the U.S. and several other major Western governments are covertly involved, and have been for decades?  Though I think all of these objectives, and more, have played a role in keeping us on the road to disaster in Afghanistan, there is something else at work here. </p>
<p>In order to see what that is, it is necessary to take a global view of current events.  First of all, over nearly the last forty years, the Western governments have been engaged in progressively abolishing the political, social and economic liberty and prosperity of their people.  &#8220;Free trade&#8221; agreements, the outsourcing of industry, unfettered immigration, decreasing reliance on gold in international finance and capitalization, the burgeoning importance of thin-air finance capitalism, increasing international control, decreasing national sovereignty, and many other factors have combined to make the lives of Western populations increasingly insecure and precarious.  Since the attacks of 9-11, these trends have intensified exponentially, combined with a worldwide push for more government surveillance and control of populations, increasing governmental use of fear and intimidation against the people, intensifying police power and brutality, the practical disappearance of human rights standards and constitutional restraint, and many other factors.  If one adds to this witches brew the still very real danger of an American and worldwide economic collapse and a confrontation between Russia, China and the United States over the fate of Iran, the clear picture emerges of a world about to either self-destruct or change to a world totalitarian state with absolute power, or possibly a Third World War followed by a  world tyranny.  Indeed, the mutual destruction of the three powerful incipient superpowers could be conceived of as a CONDITION for such a world dictatorship!</p>
<p>When seen in this light, the self-destruction of the United States in Afghanistan, or at the very least its self-induced strategic vulnerability to attack from Russia and China resulting from its&#39; military overstretch and exhaustion, makes perfect sense.  The complete formation of a world tyranny is probably impossible without the destruction of the United States as a world power, and probably of Russia and China as well.</p>
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