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Posted by robertgreenwald on August 19th, 2009

The war in Afghanistan is increasing the likelihood that American civilians will be killed in a future terrorist attack. Part six of Rethink Afghanistan brings you three former high-ranking CIA agents on the record to explain why. There is no “victory” to be won in Afghanistan.

Help build a movement to change this misguided policy.

  • dannygoy
    I`ve only seen part of this film and read a few of the comments so I may be wrong about the criticism that follows this:

    The Afghanistan invasion was planned before 911 and the `remove Al Al Quada` smokescreen continues.The invasion is part of a geostrategic plan to isolate China from Pakistan and control the bridge between Iran and China. Balkanisation of Pakistan and Afghanistan is part of the game.Elements in Pak. govt. are corrupt and can be manipulated by Anglo/America/Mossad operatives using drug money for black operations like the support for Jundallah to attack Iran.

    The goal is to control pipeline routes to deny China access and of course to profit from Caspian sea hydrocarbons.Redrawing of the borders to isolate China from its ally Pakistan,the arming of India for future conflict with China as well as border destabilisations against China in Burma,Tibet,via the Uighurs and elsewhere.The creation of US bases to the north to complete the encirclement of Russia and its bilateral trading partner China.For a full analysis go to Globalresearch.ca and study the articles by Nazemroaya and others.

    Where are the references to the above obvious truth on this site.

    Obama does not have the power to change this policy.Congress is bought and paid for.Imperial expansion is what the US military state. does
  • dmarie09
    Please Mr president listen to the people!
    We don't want escalation and we want to bring our troops home!
    Please I'm begging you.
  • GetTheHeckOut
    Afghanistan is like a Chinese finger puzzle or quicksand - the more you struggle, the more you're trapped and the faster you sink.
    We should get OUT OUT OUT, and send in some aid - hopefully aid that gets to the PEOPLE not the corrupt warlords.
    And yes, we need a FULL and REAL investigation of 911 - I don't know what happened yet, but I know the "official story" is full of lies. I'm pretty sure some of our people should be in jail, and I'm pretty sure one of them is named Dick Cheney...
    "Follow the money...."
  • jerrybrown
    i think the USA need to start getting the guns off the streets in Afghanistan every man and his dog has a gun. There is so much poverty in Afgananistan but they can afford a gun. why don,t they buy the guns off the people for more they are going for on the black market put some money in there pockets and getting the guns off the streets and make it harder for the Talibans to get hold of them.
  • andyincolorado
    The only question left for President Obama and the United States is, how many names will go on the memoriaL?
  • ron2394
    Clyde Washburn below says the Russians got bitch slapped in Afghanistan....no they didnt pal. You Americans gave surface to air weapons the the very same guys our troops are fighting now. Well done the USA. And then you just walked away.....as usual
  • ron2394
    The west wants Afghanistan for one reason. To deny it to the Russians who wanted to lay oil and gas pipelines through it. Imagine the competition with the middle east if that came about. And who is sitting on one of the biggest middle eastern oil suppliers.....the Americans....in Iraq
  • frankawalter
    Every day America continues the absurdity of the bush's Afghanistan adventure (armed aggression against a totally impotent tribal state with no central government) convinces me of the relevance of Friedrich Durrenmatt's "The Tunnel" as a metaphor for our foreign policy in the Middle East.

    Frank Walter
  • SameerK
    I am from Pakistan.

    and this war in AFghanistan from US and NATO is causing a lot of havoc in our country because it has created a hostile neighborhood for us.

    These Talibans feel that Pakistan is responsible for allying with US and NATO and taking part in spilling their pusthoon blood. I hate to say it, but we have been dragged into this conflict and the sooner US and NATO can leave AFghanistan, the better things will be.

    Pakistan is becoming the epicenter of terrorism as Pakistani Taliban want to crush the Pakistani govt because Pak govt are allies with US and responsible for occupation of their pushtoon land.

    theres just too much going on. Afghan isnt worth it.
  • James McCormick
    i quite agree--only one "expression"==as the speaker provides--is
    valid about Afghanistan: namely, BS. It is pure BS to claim our national
    security is at stake, and that more troops in this mountainous desolation
    make us safe. Bravo for critics--we've heard the General and the generals
    all too often before on the same subject: more troops and we will win==
    sorry--that is worn out, and too tragic for what it implies: deaths, civilian
    horror and billions blown. J. MC
  • clyde washburne
    George Tenet was a magician who got cheifs and tribes putting downthe Taliban..Whereas the erstwhile and stropng Russian armies up to 700,000 of them got bitch slapped by the Afghans..Our politicians suddenly have lost their way..no sentiment toward soldier casualty..no more Liberal whinning a bout personnel loss ..weve become suddenly calous about body bags and maimed and exhausted young soldiers..we have lost our leadership...Nato allies vat delusions ;talk yes but no true involvement...OUT OUT OUT 3 times get OUT
  • gerantoine
    I do not understand why Arianna Huffington is making such a fool of herself by asking for VP Joe Biden's resignation as he wants to redefine our target by narrowing it to Al Qaeda. It is clear that Taliban pursue a transnational interest in building a Pashtun Country. We have been helping the Kurds in Iraq, the Bosnians in Bosnia, why not the Pashtuns in Pashtunistan? In any case, we should not place ourselves in the middle of an Afghan civil war, allied with the most corrupt side. The video - and the speakers --should have addressed the issue of Pashtunistan also instead of turning around the pot.
  • elisabeth
    No country has come out of a war with Afghanistan well, what makes us different? Cariad.
  • Nothing at all.
  • BillWilliam
    The Film part 6

    After you have watched this 6 part series, please look at the information provided about the speakers in the film. I have and some are Al Qaeda and Taliban. In the first and other parts you have seen and heard Mohammed Osman Tariq, the pleasant older gentleman with the gray beard. He fought under Osama bin Laden in the Russian war. Do you understand he is Al Qaeda? Do you think these enemy members have a vested interest in us leaving? As you watch the horror of this film it shows what war looks like. From the time man started killing each other in mass quantities it has looked like this. In the news much is made of the difference between the Taliban and the Al Qaeda. The difference? The Taliban are a local sect following the teachings of the (muwaḥḥidūn, “Unitarians” from the Encyclopedia Britannica online) of Saudi Arabia. The derogatory term Wahhabi is sometimes used in the West. We should not use that term. The goals of the Taliban are strictly local as far as we know. But they support and sometimes follow orders of Al Qaeda. Why do we fight with the Taliban? Well when they shoot, bomb, murder, our troops and the other people in the area with out regard to who they are even bombing civilians in public places with no special American target. Well we shoot back.
    Some of you think Al Qaeda did not crash the planes into the buildings on 9/11/2002? I am an engineer. As I watched the buildings burn on TV just after it was hit before it fell I knew the building hit second would fall. How? The entire floor was fully involved in fire. I knew how the fire proof insulation was applied to the steel and that it would have been knocked off much of the steel from the crash. With that kind of fire it takes about one to two hours to soften the steel from the heat of flames. Then the floor collapses. As the top of the building starts to move the force of that moving mass crushes the next floor and so on until it all reaches the ground. The fire on the first building was not as intense I was not as sure. Almost sure. But it fell. Later Osama bin Laden issued a statement that he planned and ordered the attack. I have no faith in the mad men running our country at the time. I think Bush, Cheney, and Rove all suffer from what used to be called sociopath. In general it means being Unable to feel remorse or guilt . The list is long. This term has now been grouped into a more general more unstable category and is not listed as a psychiatric disorder. They did this in 2002. Did the administration have something to do with this? I worked for Halliburton under Cheney and that was what everyone at work called him, a ******* sociopath. Sorry for the * but I can’t use the technical oilfield jargon as some people think it means a bad word. ;)
    Al Qaeda? The group producing this film think when we leave the middle East the Al Qaeda will no longer be popular and vanish. Look at their history. What do you think?
  • BillBill - So you worked for Halliburton and everyone working there thought Dick Cheney was a sociopath?
    That's real interesting.
    Al Quaeda is Arabic for "The base" and (some say) a shortened term used by the CIA for 'The data base'. This was a database compiled by the CIA in the 1980's of mujahadeen soldiers who were fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.
    One of their leaders was Osama Bin Laden, and he was selected (probably because of his family's business connections with the Bush family) to receive CIA funding.
    In 1989, AFTER - I repeat AFTER - the Soviets left Afghanistan, Osama was funded to build and direct military training camps to train terrorists. These terrorists (some of whom also received training in the US) were all on the CIA's 'database' - al quaeda. In other words, Al Quaeda was a CIA creation and possibly may still be a CIA asset today.
    As was widely reported in the mainstream media at the time (2001), Mullah Omar, the Taliban president of Afghanistan, under threat of a missile strike, offered to arrest Osama Bin Laden and try him in a clerical court. This was rejected by the Pentagon. Next, Mullah Omar offered to deliver Osama to US forces if they could provide evidence he was connected to 9/11. Despite propaganda to the contrary, the Taliban are not entirely unreasonable people.
    But the US refused to provide evidence.
    Even today, no evidence has been produced to connect Bin Laden to 9/11. The various videos of Bin Laden making speeches cannot be relied upon as evidence of anything. They are too easy to fake. None have been verified as genuine.

    The twin towers came down at free-fall speed into their own footprint (exactly like a controlled demolition) less than an hour after being impacted by the planes. Anyone looking at the footage can see the fires were not fierce ones - you can hardly see any flames. In fact many people in Tower 2 who were in their offices above the impact walked down the stairs to safety, past the 76th floor where the fire was burning. They said the fire wasn't very hot.
    No tower has ever collapsed as a result of fire.
    Independent investigators examining the dust and molten metal from the basement of the buildings, found the presence of a patented barium enhanced thermite (a military grade thermite known as 'thermate'). Thermite is the only explosive substance powerful enough to slice through steel girders.
    Many witnesses, including firemen and policemen (some of whom can be seen in various videoed reports) said they heard a rapid series of explosions before the towers came down.
    It seems almost certain 9/11 was an inside job. The evidence is overwhelming.
    The question remains: who on earth would do such a profoundly evil thing?
    Probably a sociopath.
  • Cad Avre
    Afghanistan was not about 911. If we were after the bad boys behind 911 the GPS coordinates would have centered on the FBI, the CIA, Tel Aviv and the organizations, and individuals mentioned in Sibel Edmonds deposition. Afghanistan was not about an oil pipeline. Oil is a cheap, low profit high volume commodity.

    Of all the Amazing things that happened in 2001, including Larry Silverstein's amazing purchase of real estate under waiver for asbestos contamination, the WTC, the fact the 3 Heavy Planes were directed, with the skill of an ace combat pilot, through the most expensive air defense system man has ever known while three concurrent military drills were occurring, and those three planes were able to [allegedly] "pull" four buildings, were above "top amazing" in themselves. Even the exceptional prescience with their crystal ball gypsy premonition to call the collapse of WTC3 25 minutes before it occurred wasn't the most magical moment of the 911 apparition. The fact that Marvin Bush was head of WTC security, the fact that Marvin and George and Neil and Jeb Bush father's company, Carlyle Group, paid out a billion in dividends before the clocked ticked past 2001 is chump change astonishment.

    None of those compare with the fact that none of the kings men that had sworn a blood oath to protect America from what transpired on slash eleven were fired reprimanded or given the hi ho for their failure to execute on that oath. But even that is not the most amazing fact of the year 2001.

    The most amazing fact of 2001 is that the Taliban had completely eradicated opium production (according to UN inspectors).

    A barrel of oil is 60 dollars. A barrel of refined oil is a million dollars. The summer following the invasion Afghanistan recorded a bumper poppy harvest. The most amazing outcome of 2001 is that American soldiers are now protecting the reinvigorated poppy production in Aghanistan.
  • Dave
    Come on guys, get with the porkbarrel project. Why would we want efficient solutions when we we can make this hog trough last "50 years"?

    The Viet Nam war taught me that when a situation is stupid, counter-productive, and incredibly costly, then look where the money is flowing. Then stupid, counter-productive, and costly become ruthlessly logical. All the claimed goals for invading Iraq and Afghanistan have become moot. Yet they want to increase the troop levels (and costs). What then is the real goal?
  • Jonathan Gems
    Wouldn't the best policy be to negotiate with Russia to put the Kazakhstan/Caspian Sea Region oil and gas pipelines through Russia and the Ukraine and bypass Afghanistan and Pakistan? This would secure our energy supplies, foster better relations with Moscow and allow us to stop wasting precious lives and billions of dollars in Afghanistan.
    Also, if the Taliban/Pashtun were allowed to govern Afghanistan again they would stamp out the heroin-poppy farming - which is what they'd achieved before the invasion. (The US and NATO are supporting and funding the drug lords previously contained by the Taliban.)
    Apart from Afghan women, who are repressed by the religious culture, everyone would win. And perhaps, if permitted a long enough period of peace and security, liberal and democratic elements in Afghan society would emerge.
  • Junious RicardoStanton
    There were/are plans for pipelines to run through Eastern Europe's Balkan region into Western Europe! The US oil and gas consortia want it all for themselves. They don't want to partner with Russia in fact they want to destabilize the former Soviet Republics so they have pliant puppets willing to grant them the oil and gas rights. That is the real issue behind the escalating US, NATO-Russian tensions.
    One of the reasons the Clinton administration and NATO bombed Bosnia and Kosovo to smithereens was to depose Slabodan Milosevic who headed a government that would not play along with their aims. So they used the media to demonize Milosevic and killed millions of innocent people for pipeline route access. See the article NATO Defends Private Economic Interests in the Balkans at Project Censored's Website for more details. The US is repeating the same "strategy" in Afghanistan now. The fact the people being killed are Muslims makes it all ok in the minds of the psychopathic elites who run AmeriKKKa.
    Don't forget, oil was also one of several reasons the Bu$h cabal invaded Iraq.
  • geo1671
    Gems--you got this point all wrong-"This would secure our energy supplies, "--enough B.S.
    USA gets over 80% of it's foriegn oil from canada and the rest from south america. You won't see any tankers from the M.E. unloading into USA harbours. Reason USA is in the east--paid thug by the EU. Remember EU is America's child and depends on Russian oil. Joos hate the Russians and want to break the income russia gets from exporting oil/gas.
    The wholething is a sinister plot,using our GI boys-just as was during WWI WWII to create that ShittylittleplacecalledIsrael :^/
  • dsmith
    Geor1671...Now Israel and its powerful US lobby are campaigning for the US to bomb Iran. Forget about the deficit, the horrific recession, the well worn US military and their families ...these bastards are still calling for more war.

    If the US bombs Iran oil will zoom upwards to possibly $200 per barrel...What do you want to bet the US neocons and Israelis will be holding oil futures when the bombings occur. They will make billions of dollars off of another stupid war, all the while not having to risk one of their own lives.
  • Whats happening there, is also happening here in a way with the Christian Fundamentalists.

    StopTheAmericanTaliban.com
  • joebloefromidaho
    Where is "rethink afghanistan" in my neighborhood? I have not had any door-to-door visitors.

    It is real great to hear the truth, but until truth reaches the highest recesses of power, it is the sound of the surf at a distance inland; it is there, it is audible if you are close enough to it. Bring it to my neighborhood, recruit me. If you are going to be heard, you need every voice.
  • altergrounds
    Recruit yourself. Bring it to your own neighborhood.
  • jamie1008
    "Every official we questioned about the possibility of an invasion of Afghanistan said that it was almost unthinkable, absent a provocation such as 9/11." - The 9/11 Commission Report, July 2004 (p 137)

    "Officials we interviewed flatly said that neither Congress nor the American public would have supported large-scale military operations in Afghanistan before the shock of 9/11 - despite repeated attacks and plots, including the embassy bombings, the Millennium plots, concerns about Al Qaeda to acquire WMD, the USS Cole, and the summer 2001 threat spike. Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz warned that it would have been impossible to get Congress to support sending 10,000 U.S. troops into Afghanistan to do what the Soviet Union failed to do in the 1980s. Vice Admiral Scott Fry, the former operations director for the JCS, noted that “a two-or-four division plan would require a footprint [troop level] and force that was larger than the political leadership was willing to accept.” - 9/11 Commission The Military: Staff Statement No 6, 2004 p.12

    "To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan, but for what happened on September 11.” – Tony Blair (July 2002)
  • alfa55
    This is one of the most powerful, emotional, and moving documentary I have ever seen. In my opinion, every single person, and specifically, every single American should watch it and offer a post-reflection as to what she or he trully understood (or did not).

    I am very familiar with Afgan history, especially the history of wars it faught, and I hope that those who lack the knowledge of that history will formulate a decent understanding of what has happened in the past and what is happening now, and be able to draw a comparison, especially when it comes to human sacrifies on both sides.
  • geo1671
    Alfa55---Checkout the Brit documentary called="Hidden War of Desert Strom" Very odd,it can't be found for free viewing on google or you tube
    I used to be a supporter of USA--not after watching this one.
    CBC,aired this one and included their video sigment--American troops pilfering dead Iraq soldiers for gold,hand guns.One part showed a burnt iraq hand with a gold ring--trooper prying it off. Comment--Selling the stuff in Kuwaite bazar.
    Americans are sick :^/
  • davidgormley
    This war is all about enrichment of a few corporations and individuals.
    There is also the choice of war, 'War on Terror' a complete nebulous phrase as there is no end or defined boundary to it, so it's a never ending war, a profit making machine for the few.
    Also until people take the time to educate themselves on the social and political reasons behind what their politicians push they will get what the politico wish, which is always at the peoples expense in lives, wealth and mental health.
    America has been given the government their people deserves which if left at that would be ok, but this 'gift' is passed on around the world and you end up with these sort of crimes being visited on innocents in far off places.
    Nobody in Europe believed any element of the case for war in Iraq or Afghanistan. We're still agog that the American people haven't woken up to this. Obama was given as a form of contrition so Americans can feel better about themselves again and simply forget the crimes brought on peoples in their name.
    Wake up, It's only regrettable that the oceans aren't wide or deep enough to keep your governments criminal lust off our shores.
    David.
  • andrewduncancomb
    I am very horrified by what I see in al of these videos. The NATO attacks, and stragegies are redundat. They shouldn't be there. If it weren't for the western powers intervention with the mujahidin in the first place, we might have seen a different picture. But it was a power play against the Soviets, before the endng of the Cold War that started all this.Various USA and British bodies armed, and trained the mujahadin, and it all started from there. I believe there is more to this than meets the eye, and I feel absolute sorrow for the poor people of Afghanistan. My heart goes out to them. As a Christian I can say that I have agape love for them, and wish that I could provide in a small way for their needs. I am poor, because I have disabilities, and I am trying to find a way to work through writing, and other artistic talents. Perhaps I should paint a picture of a Pastun family grieving after they have been bombed out of their home. I'm a pacifist, by the way, and I believe strognly in social justice. I hope I have got my facts right, I don't like getting hings wrong.
  • Martin
    I disagree with other comments that this video purpose was to argue for an exit from Afghanistan. I believe they argued for a review of the current American policy toward Afghanistan which is focusing on securing the country so it doesn't become a place for Al-Qaeda. "Rethink Afghanistan", note the title, argues, in my view, that NATO should stay in Afghanistan but with less commitments and focusing on targeting Al-Qaeda because a destabilized Pakistan is even worst. Therefore, I disagree with this view. I think NATO should leave Afghanistan and help grassroots Afghans to increase their living conditions because there is no military solution to Afghanistan or Al-Qaeda. Being in Afghanistan, only increase chances for NATO member to get attacked in their respective countries. 9/11 is actually a response against those foreign interventions during the twenty century by United States. US should listen to Eisenhower about the military-industrial complex and scale down his military in order to finance health care, education, social services instead of financing arms dealer like Lockheed Martin and Boeing. Where is the change in America?
  • brian
    I have to say I watched this video with a does of cynisicm but, you've sold me.
    Time to get out & leave those people sort their own country out.
    Hopefully at the same time they'll stop flooding Europe with heroin....
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  • kackermann
    That part where the Afgan is lecturing us on how to fight Al Qaida is priceless. Finding the right country would help too.

    I wonder how US citizens would feel if the military starts using drones to take out suspected terrorists here in the US. They can start on Wall Street right away.

    Like tornatoes to trailerparks, terrorists seem to have an affinity for weddings.

    Without a doubt, the command and control of the US military are the dumbest collection of individuals ever assembled for a common purpose, and they have weapons.
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